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XM124_ICDMS_lowres Answers to questions relating to the Wonghi Tribe, Lachlan District, NSW

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6th A parents consent was necessary before a girls marriage.7th It very rarely happens (I never knew a case) that a girl marries without her father's consent. I have never known a case of a girl eloping and am sure they would hardly ever occur.9th A woman was the property of her captor when she was not of a class forbidden to him. I don't think a blackfellow would persist in retaining a female captive of a forbidden class; indeed I feel sure he would not as he would incur the contempt of every member of his tribe but whether he would be killed or not I cannot say.8 Wives are almost always obtained by gift from the father, never so far as I can learn by exchange but often by capture.

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The native name of the tribe to which the above questions refer is Wonghi (sometimes called Wonghibon) it has no English equivalent - that I can discover.The tribe is divided into four primary classes which governthe marriages and is sub-dividedinto various others such as Wajim - Crow, Murua - Kangaroo,Tulee - Iguanna. Curu - BandicootCurakai - Oppossim etc etcThe territory claimed by this tribe is or was not as large as some tribes I have known and is I think about 10,000 square miles and is situated to the north side of the Lachlan River commencingabout Whealbah, following

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hw0200 Howitt Notes on Wonghibon

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Cameron Wonghi = No

Wonghibon or Wonghi Tribe Lachlan RiverThis tribe claimed the country on the North sideof the Lachlan River, commencing aboutWhealbale, following the river up for 80 milesand extending back from the river somethingover 100 miles.

It was divided into the following classes

Ipai KubbiKumbo Murriclass marries children areIpai - Matha - Kubbi-KubbithaKumbo - Kubbitha - Murri-mathaKubbi - Butha - Ipai - IpathaMurri - Ipatha - Kumbo - Butha

Totems are Wajun crow, Murua Kangaroo, Talee Iguanacuru, bandicoot, currakai opossum +cIt was customary for the men to havemore than one wife. The parents' consent was necessaryand it was very rare that a girl married with out her parents' consent.The woman was bound to be faithful to herhusband, the penalty being whateverpunishment he thought fit to administer.But this rule would not apply to the husband.

Wives were obtained by gift from the father,never by exchange. No instance of elopementof unmarried girls are recorded.

Female captives were the property of theircaptors if of a class from which he mightlegally take a wife. A Wonghi manwould not persist in retaining a femalecaptive of a forbidden class, for by doingso he would incur the contempt of everymember of his tribe. It is not certainwhether he would or would not be killed.

[written in left side margin]Ipai MuriKumbo Kubbi

Different from Kamusage. But the childrenof the women are the sameIs there any mistake here?

How are the totemsallotted andgive them all

consent of parents

M. by gift

no elopement ?

M. by. Cap

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hw0196 Notes on the Wonghi tribe

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Wonghi tribeThis tribe which was also called Wonghi-bon-whonghi being No - claimed the country on theNorth side of the Lachlan, commencing aboutWhealbale and following the river up for80 miles. It extended back from the riverfor something over 100 miles.

The Wonghi community was divided into thefollowing classes:-Ipaia Ipai Kubith b a Ipai Muri bKŭmboα Kumbo Matha β α Kumbo Kubi βKŭbiMŭri

having the totem Wagŭn (crow) Mŭrūa (Kangaroo)Tali (Iguana) Cūrū (Bandicoot), Kŭrakai (opossum)Marriage and descent in the classes were as follows[table]male married childrenIpai Matha Kŭbi- KubithaKŭmbo Kubbitha Mŭri - MathaKŭbi Būtha Ipai- IpathaMŭri Ipatha Kŭmbo - Būtha

It was customary for a man to have more thanone wife. The parents consent was necessaryand it was very rare that a girl married without her father's consent. The woman was boundto be faithful to her husband, [under - crossed out] the penaltybeing whatever punishment he thought fit toadminister. But this rule would not applyto the husband.

[written in left side margin]I cannot quite fixthis on the map

What tribe was on the south side?

Is it a tribe or a clan?

Are there two primaryclasses?

How were the totems arrangedunder the classes and how manytotems were there inall? I cannot ascertainat present but will endeavourto do so.

This tribe by its classes belongsto the great "Kamilaroi" group.Please note theabnormal descentin this tribe as comparedwith Ŭnghi. Can youenquire furhter as it will be important to confirmthis for future comparison.

Does this mean that moremen had two wives thanone wife? If so numbers ofmen must have been without.Did the old men monopolizethe women - for if an infantgirl were betrothed to a grownman he would be old whenshe became marriageable.This might be important inconsidering the causesleading to change in thelaws of marriage anddescent - e.g the origins of customsof elopement.

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