Engelmann, George Mar. 9, 1843 [2] (seq. 79)

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Judy Warnement at Jun 13, 2022 06:46 PM

Engelmann, George Mar. 9, 1843 [2] (seq. 79)

a part of the flora of Texas, and will make his collections in
future to great advantages. — Do you know any thing about
Drummonds movements in Texas, when, at what seasons and
where he was there? It would be important for L. to know
that. — By the by, Drummonds name recurs a little to
often in the botany of Texas, Aster Dr. Solidago Dr. [Malvaceae?] Dr.
and hundred others, don't you think so — where should we
come to, if the names of collectors are to exclude most
other trivial names?

Geyer does not expect to go with Fremont on any expedition,
but will go any how, and I encourage him and intend,
to assist him, for I know his zeal and his indefatigability
and you know also the beauty of his specimens. He will
do a great deal for the promotion of our knowledge
of western botany. But before 4 or 6 weeks it
can not be known how he will get off and where to.

{Friedrich Georg Jakob} Lüders, who brought a letter from you, and was
recommended to you by Prof Lehmann, has collected
last summer in the interior of this state, but was
sick several months, so that he could not do
a great deal; by the way, he has also found
the Aster anomalus. — His warmesst wish now
is to get to the mountains; how would it do to
recommend him to Mr Fremont or the head of
the Oregon expedition? I believe F. {Fremont} would
like him much better than Geyer and Lüders was
much delighted with my proposition. — I am
going to write to Lieutenant Fremont myself today
though I doubt, whether he goes, as the Oregon bill
does not appear to pass. — Lüders will go
either in the employment of the government ex-
pedition, or under its protection only. In the first
case his collections will belong to the government
in the latter he is willing to have them distributed
in the same way, as Lindheimers and Geyers —
We can not have labourers enough in the field!

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Would you assist Lüders application by your recommendation
to Lieut Fremont? — He would have a good influence
I expect. Do so! — Do you know any thing of
Nuttalls friend, Mr. {William} Gambel, who went to Santa Fe and
California 2 years ago? —

I expect your answer soon, and in my next I can
tell you more about our arrangements, so as
to be able to publish them in scientific journals.

Now another interesting thing. Since I wrote you last

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Lindenheimeria belongs to the Scleranthaceae:
Link: Calyx persistens, fructiges cum incluso pericarpio
deciduus
, tubus campanulatum
faux (anulo glanduloso?) coarctata; limbus (4-)5 partitus, aestivatium;
imbricatus. (Petala nulla) Stamina (ante annulum facies inserta) 5, [calyis?]
laciniis opposita. Quarium liberum uniloculare etc; Stylus 1
capitatus s. emarginatum: Utriculus membranaceous calycis tubo
indurato inolusus
. Embryo peripherous, albumen farinaceum,
Folia oppositi ex stipulata
Decandolle III. 377 has the same only shorter.
Lindley (Torrey; edit) : (Apetelous) dicotyledous — inferior tubular
indurated

calyx, perigynous stamens — — etc.

All the underlined words are especially characteristic; the inclosed ones are
exceptions in our plant from the common type.

Amaranthaceae have "Perigonium 3-5 partitum persistems," or "calyx"
3-5 leaves, hypogynous, scabrus, persistent" — stamen hypogyna

So both families are described as apetalous and if that should
prevent the attaching the Lindheimeria to Scleranthaceae it will
do the same in regard to Amaranthaceae but as Scleranthaceae
are considered to be near Illecebraceae (which have petals,
Lindh. with its gamopatalous corolla may rather be referred
here than to the always apetalous Amaranthaceae. — Then
the indented calyx, which form the outer integument
and part of the fruit
, and comes off with it tho to ge as also
the perigynous stamen should divide: in Amaranthaceae
the stamens are hypogynous, and the calyx is simply
persistent.— As I have sad before, the Chilian
Guielleminea of Humboldt must bear a very close resemblence
to the Lindheimeria.

Engelmann, George Mar. 9, 1843 [2] (seq. 79)

a part of the flora of Texas, and will make his collections in
future to great advantages. — Do you know any thing about
Drummonds movements in Texas, when, at what seasons and
where he was there? It would be important for L. to know
that. — By the by, Drummonds name recurs a little to
often in the botany of Texas, Aster Dr. Solidago Dr. [Malvaceae?] Dr.
and hundred others, don't you think so — where should we
come to, if the names of collectors are to exclude most
other trivial names?

Geyer does not expect to go with Fremont on any expedition,
but will go any how, and I encourage him and intend,
to assist him, for I know his zeal and his indefatigability
and you know also the beauty of his specimens. He will,
do a great deal for the promotion of our knowledge
of western botany. But before 4 or 6 weeks it
can not be known how he will get off and where to.

{Friedrich Georg Jakob} Lüders, who brought a letter from you, and was
recommended to you by Prof Lehmann, has collected
last summer in the interior of this state, but was
sick several months, so that he could not do
a great deal; by the way, he has also found
the Aster anomalus. — His warmesst wish now
is to get to the mountains; how would it do to
recommend him to Mr Fremont or the head of
the Oregon expedition? I believe F. {Fremont} would
like him much better than Geyer and Lüders was
much delighted with my proposition. — I am
going to write to Lieutenant Fremont myself today
though I doubt, whether he goes, as the Oregon bill
does not appear to pass. — Lüders will go
either in the employment of the government ex-
pedition, or under its protection only. In the first
case his collections will belong to the government
in the latter he is willing to have them distributed
in the same way, as Lindheimes and Geyers —
We can not have labourers enough in the field!
[continues next page below line with sentence "Would you assist Lüders
application ..."

Lindenheimeria belongs to the Scleranthaceae:
Link: Calyx persistens, fructiges cum incluso pericarpio
deciduus
, tubus campanulatum
faux (anulo glanduloso?) [coartata?]; limbus (4-)5 partitus, aestivatium;
imbricatus. (Petala nulla) Stamina (ante annulum facies inserta) 5, [calyis?]
laciniis opposita. Quarium liberum uniloculare etc; Stylus 1
capitatus s. emarginatum: Utriculus membranaceous calycis tubo
indurato inolusus
. Embryo peripherous, albumen farinaceum,
Folia oppositi ex stipulata
Decandolle III. 377 has the same only shorter.
Lindley (Torrey; edit) : (Apetelous) dicotyledous — inferior tubular
indurated

calyx, perigynous stamens — — etc.

All the underlined words are especially characteristic; the inclosed ones are
exceptions in our plant from the common type.

Amaranthaceae have "Perigonium 3-5 partitum persistems," or "calyx"
3-5 leaves, hypogynous, scabrus, persistent" — stamen hypogyna

So both families are described as apetalous and if that should
prevent the attaching the Lindheimeria to Scleranthaceae it will
do the same in regard to Amaranthaceae but as Scleranthaceae
are considered to be near Illecebraceae (which have petals,
Lindh. with its gamopatalous corolla may rather be referred
here than to the always apetalous Amaranthaceae. — Then
the indented calyx, which form the outer integument
and part of the fruit
, and comes off with it tho to ge as also
the perigynous stamen should divide: in Amaranthaceae
the stamens are hypogynous, and the calyx is simply
persistent.— As I have sad before, the Chilian
Guielleminea of Humboldt must bear a very close resemblence
to the Lindheimeria.
——————————
Would you assist Lüders application by your recommendation
to Lieut Fremont? — He would have a good influence
I expect. Do so! — Do you know any thing of
Nuttalls friend, Mr. {William} Gambel, who went to Santa Fe and
California 2 years ago? —

I expect your answer soon, and in my next I can
tell you more about our arrangements, so as
to be able to publish them in scientific journals.

Now another interesting thing. Since I wrote you last