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Waln Brown interviewing WIlliam Nagle 8/21/72 Tape 5-2

WB: How are you doing, Mr. Nagle?

WN: Pretty good.

WB: Are you waiting for the mailman? You have to make some money.

WN: You have to work hard for money before, today you don't have to work hard you can take it easy, you see, these people have too much money today, that's right.

WB: Well a lot of people do you're right there, how about you or me tho?

WN: No I worked hard for my money and din't make much you work in the mines all these years you would know how hard you work, you wouldn't work, you wouldn't work one day.

WB: Oh I don't know, I've done some pretty hard jobs.

WN: Yeh, you'd say the hell with this job, there's a fellows come and work over here that worked in the city and factories they worked one day and "Which way us to go home," "Why?" "I want to know I want to go home

WB: Would a lot of men come in to town and do that, they couldn't take the work?

WN: It took hard work so he'd work 2, 3 hours, "Oh gee I ain't want that kind of job," he'd go, show him the road, "Hey which way you goin' to go," "Oh you go up this way and then go across the other way and then they'd get outside, so you see I, a fellow like this here he went home and when he went you never seen him no more, you know one of those little shoves, they got them numbered them little shovels, you know before the big shovels and he said, "No that's too big of a shovel."

Woman comes on the scene, Susie, and WN starts talking to her.

WN: You know there was 2 men killed one time and this here party said, "You go and tell the priest get the graves," so he went, so the other guy he was a priest too and he went and he said -- because there's 2 men killed and Father said, "Don't bother no you ain't gonna put them in heaven and I ain't goin'g to put them to heaven, but where ever he done he's good and that's the way he was goin' to go, if he done bad, he said he was goin' good enough, you know, save your money he said, because you're only givin' the guy money for nothin; so you see he was savin' his money and said, tomorrow I'll have mass for this guy and the day after I'll have mass for him, but he took the money but the other priest -- he said to himself you can to go heck as long as I get the money, he got for the 2 funerals and he didn't care for the other one he said that's only throwin' money away, now you see that's the way it goes even with the priest -- 16 priests and one would go away and used to have mass he said that man didn't put that man in there, up in heaven God knows where he's goin' maybe he's might go in hell, so you see never depend on somebody else to take your sins.

S: Prayin' and doin' the right thing and if you don't do everything exactly right. God forgives everybody that's why he died on the cross, don't you think?

WN: We say Protestants don't confess, they all go the priest and say, "I'm a sinner," alright and the people go they say why should they be tellin' him my sins?

S: Well, that's the way it's going to be with the Catholics. It going to be like that.

WN: That's the way it goes, I give them money, there was a priest in the Polish church there was a priest that used to be jealous, his cook.

S: That's the Polish for you.

WN: Polish or not Polish might be the same thing

S: ??? their words, and I'm Greek.

WN: So that janitor used to go out when she hang clothes and he'd keep talkin' to her, "Hey what are you doin' over here in this area, you go do your work."

S: But then she left with a young priest and the old priest was left.

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