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A. Varesano interviewig M/M Joe Sulkusky
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8/8/72
Tape 30-1

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JS: That's how these houses are all

AV: How about that little passageway between the new kitchen and the shanty?

JS: Oh, that, that, I built that.

AV: When did you do that?

JS: Oh, a long time ago. I moved it from that house up here then.

AV: The whole thing?

MS: No, no. On the entrance goin' in to outside. That little shed. the porch
inside.

AV: You mean the door there?

MS: Yeah, he built that porch, you know, the steps and all. That was his
neighbor that heped him to build it. The steps and this other room.

JS: One time it was all right here. It wasn't too bad. they used to have the
timber yard right up above the church there, on the upper side. And the
lumber used to come in for the mines and all, you know, boards and timber,
all kinds of stuff. Well, if you wanted a board or a stool, or somethin'
like that, you'd up there and you took it, and put it up! Oh. they used to
steal a lot of lumber.

AV: I guess a lot of people did, from what I heard.

JS: Oh, my God, everybody was takin' lumber from there, you'd think they owned
the place! Buildin' all kinds of sheds and every darn thing. And the farmers
used to help theirselves--from Sandy Valley, you know, out on top of the
hill. They used to come up and load the big wagonloads full and build barns
and all for themselves from that.

AV: Well, what did they use the lumber for around here? To build their shanties?

JS: In the mines.

AV: Oh, in the mines. And the people that took it, what did they use it for?
Buildings, their shanties?

JS: Well, some of them would build, you know, something that they'd want to
build, and, before--there was a shed here, but it was only small, you know,
about like that.

MS: Just and entrance....

AV: Like, four feet wide...

JS: It was, oh, I'd say about six feet this way and maybe a bout eight feet that
way.

MS: We used to have a sink out there for the water, you know.

AV: And it used to reach all the way over to the summer kitchen?

JS: No, no, this'n I moved out the way to there. That's was only a little over
half-way, a little over half. Just a small shed.

AV: And how did you get into the summer kitchen, before?

JS: Under it? (he doesn't hear.)

MS: How did you get into the summer kitchen?

JS: Oh, through the side door, over there. You'd come in that way.

AV: I see. There wasn't any boardwalk across here to the summer kitchen?

MS: Well, there was a boardwalk there, there was a porch in between. You know
when we had that this here, that little shed we had, well, there was a little
boardwalk that used to go in the summer kitchen.

JS: Yeah, well, you could go out this way, too.

AV: What about this picture of Our Lady of Lourdes over here, where did you get
this from?

MS: I said, I don't know, because I got so many pictures. You know, when I went
housekeepin', well, one would give you this another would give you that.

AV: It was a present, like?

MS: Yes. Just a gift to you.

AV: Why do you keep it over this dining room table?