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A. Varesano interviewing Anna Timko -20- 6/23/72
Tape 16-2

the living room, well that would last longer there, because it didn't have that pressure on it.
AV: So, these bottom rooms here, where you had just a bare ceiling - and these were beams across here, right - and you didn't want the beams to show?
AT: That's right. Well, and it looked neater, too, and the whitewash, you know, the lime, would be coming down through the beams, because that would get loose like everything else, and you'd be whitewashing it every year, every year, every year. But you had to, because it would be dusty and dirty, so you had to whitewash it every year, you know, to make it look good, just like painting you do, or something, but you don't do painting every year. And then that would accumulate so much, so then crusts that thick would be falling off, it was not too long ago, before we had the plasterboard there, it used to be falling off. Or like, take upstairs, well then, people didn't paper those staris over here on this street, you know, because we didn't have plaster on these walls. Ours was just boards, there was no plaster. So, I often used to laugh, you know, because when you had it papered, well, you had to pull the paper off, because it would be hanging, it didn't stick to the wood, it would be hanging. And you'd take it off, and, the way they cut the tree down and slice it on the saw, that's the way they'd tack it on the wall, with the bark and everything on it, and then that bark would dry and come off, and when you were papering again, and you were pulling off the paper to the bare wood, well probably that bark would come off with it, too! You could stick you hand on the neighbor's side, there were holes in there! So everybody had to be tacking it themselves, you know, fixing it up themselves to cover up these holes! And they'd crack, they'd break up and crack, and you never had any place, no matter how much you'd paper. The plasterboard is good, you put plasterboard on already, why then...We did all this. These homes never would have been standing here. That closet back there that we have, we built that. We bought the plasterboard for all these rooms here. And once you'd pay for it, when you had the plasterboard, it would last. I don't have any in this room, so this room doesn't look good at all. But when they painted the front room for m, then there was some paint left, I said, well paint this one. ANd, see I had a paper with a flower on it, designed, you know, and these cracks and crinkles in it didn't show. And now with the paint on it, it shows. But even my daughter-in-law was telling me, she says, Ma, why don't you get paper? I don't like that room. I said, I don't either, but it's gonna stay that way. She says, Why don't you get paper some time, and we'll come over and paper it for you. Because they painted this for me last July, painted the ceiling and that closet and this other closet over here for m, and the table and the chairs, that was my son and his wife did all this work for me. So, I said, Well, it would be alright, liek it was once, you just could go to a store and pick out what kind of paper you wanted, and they had it. Buty now, no. You have to pick it out and they send for it. I guess people don't buy enough paper, because everybody's painting now, not everybody - most people are painting. So they don't keep it on hand. And one time they used to have it on hand. They had books, you know, samples, like they do rugs, you know, so this was the same way. They had patches of paper, and you could pick up what kind you wanted.
AV: At the country store?
AT: No, not here. In Freeland, wallpaper stores, they were. So then, you would just pick out what you wanted, and the had it right in the store, they'd trim it for you and sell it. But now you have to order it. I had to order two rolls, I didn't have any use for them, but I had to have two rolls, becaause one isn't enough. It was two double rolls, and it is very expensive now.

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