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AV inter GF & HF -3- 7/7/72

GF: so many pounds of sugar, oh that thing would boil and you could smell it well you see Mr. So and So would get the fire started and get the still started before he went to work now he would dip out the liquid part of the mash and put it in the still and he had to be very careful and not get any of the mash into the still and then he'd start the fire and he would connect the coils, for the condenscing to the water spigot and he went to work but when making this liquid alcohol boils at 60 degrees, vaporizes, and then of course as the vapor rises you could see it pass thru the coils and when it comes in contact with the cold water it precipitates and forms liquid, well I guess Mrs. So and So wasn't too vigilant and the coils block up and when the coils block up this thing would explode and set the shanty on fire and that's where we came in

HF: Our Pete was on that fire squad too

GF: And we'd have to take this cart, about 40 gals. of water, sodium bicarbonate and sulphuric acid, well when we got there out on the street we would know what happened, you could smell, Mrs. So and So would say "Bad wire, kitchen set on fire." we'd put it out and leave but down here, you know where (.....) lives, right across from the club house he made a still, steady the residue, especially in the winter was taken down and dumped over the fence and you know there is an awful lot of alcohol in the residue that's the mash and a great many people had cows, they'd send the cows out after they milked them in the morning turn them out, the village green there weren't so many cave-ins around here at that time but they discovered this pile of mash and they loved it and do you know what happened, the cows wobbled, some of them got down and couldn't get up, I saw that, well in the brewery where they make beer malt was used in the making of beer many of the people here with cows would go over there, if they had the means of getting there, and buy this mash and the cows loved it, the cows were drunk, they were intoxicated

HF: I know (Mat...a's) had a big cow oh my she was tremendous and we had a big apple tree