Vol. 2-Interview-Maloney

inter. M/M Clifford Falatko -1- 8/11/72 CF Clifford Tape 11 MF Mrs. Falatko

IM Now we're on the air, what were the meals you were served as kids and maybe meals you served your own children.

MF I use to make soup

IM What kind of soup

MF Well beef soup or chicken soup

IM Just slices of beef, cut up pieces of beef and chicken, what in it

MF Carrot and potatoes, celery, parsley

IM Sort of like a stew

MF Yeh

IM Was this for your own kids

MF Oh yeh

IM And I know when you slaughter a duck your husband wants the blood out of it? and you don't want anything to do with the duck, right

MF I don't like duck, I don't care for it

IM What would be a typical meal that you might serve your kids when they were young let's say 10, 12 years old?

CF Well the same thing she told you now.

MF Soup and I'd make dumplings, turkeys

CF In the morning toast and coffee just like milk

MD And maybe eggs.

MF Oh yes and maybe bacon

MD No filled cabbages

MF Not for the morning, but later on filled cabbages and potatoe cakes, do you know about potatoe cakes

IM I figure everybody had that

MF Potatoe cakes, bean soup and pea soup

IM Now when you did this you had you own eggs, your own chickens in the back

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MF I had chickens and ducks

IM And you would slaughter the chickens also

MF We'd kill them by ourselves

IM And did you have a cow back then

MF Well in the beginning we had a cow then she wasn't much for milk so then we killed her and then we had 2 or 3 pigs, hogs

IM And you used to butcher them yourselves and cut the pieces up

MF Oh yeh

IM How did you store those do you recall, when you butchered a hog what would happen after that

MF We smoked the hams, bacon the rest why you'd have to freeze it

IM You could freeze it even in those days

MF Oh yes

IM What about smoking, did you have a smoke house around here

MF Yes we did

IM I though you had one but where was it

MF That was outside not in the house

IM Yes I know a smoking house outside, where was that, do you know where the smoke house was

MF It was in the yard

IM Oh each one had his own

MF Just a building with the smoke coming out

IM That's how you'd preserve the meat, pork and what else would you smoke

MF Bacon and kilbosi

IM Kilbasi, I know what that is, it's a sausage and you could make that up from

MF All pig meat, of couse you'd have the casing from the pig to clean it and make our own sausage

IM You did all that and then you smoked it so it was a big kill so it was practical

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IM all day to be spent, just a couple hours, I don't know, I never did that

CF It would take more than one hour to kill a pig and clean it

MF No he means the sausage, it wouldn't take long

MF You would have to have it like I'd say 2 days to smoke it so you could get that smoke into it

IM So it would be like 5 or 6 hours one day and maybe 2 or 3 the next

MF Oh yes

IM And that was a yearly occurance, what time of the year would you slaughter the pig

MF Well around December when cold weather, cause you can't kill them in the summer it's alright now they can slaughter them because they have deep freeze they can freeze everything but them times we had to wait for a certain month

IM So you could freeeze outside

CF We had a ice box

IM Then the ice would last when the weather was cold

MF Oh yes it would last long and then we'd have like in the outside shanty when it was cold

IM So what would you eat during the summer, if you waited to winter to butcher the hogs and pigs, what kind of meats would you have in the summer

CF The butcher used to come with all kind of stuff and you buy what you need one or 2 pounds or so what you want for one meal or 2 meal that's all, pretty near everyday the butcher use to come

IM So you bought more meat from the butcher during the summer than you did in the winter

MF Naturally

IM Because you could put up your own meat during the winter, o.k. The butcher back in those days had a 4 wheel cart with a couple of horses pulling it

CF 2 horses

IM And lots of sides of beef hanging inside

F All kinds of meat

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MF All kinds of meat he had, nice meat in the truck

IM Well it changed to a truck after the horse and buggy kind of truck, automobile truck

MF Yeh

IM What would you have for something special like saints day or feast day or Christmas

MF Oh chicken or ham

IM Ham or chicken is that all

CF Different kinds of meat, maybe pork chops or something

IM Did people around here like cranberry jelly or cranberry sauce

CF Oh yeh

MF Like Jell-o

IM In molds, fancy molds

MF Uh huh

IM What about salads, we didn't mention salads before, did you ever have toss green salads

MF Oh yeh

IM Because I know everybody grows their own lettuce

MF Lettuce, tomatoes and cucumbers and all that

CF We got that just like we get it now

IM Did you grow all that yourself

CF No, yeh in the summer yeh

IM Did you grow all the things we're growing them at our house now

MF Yeh

IM Anything else you got for fancy, like Easter feast

CF Nothin' fancy

MF Nothing fancy, nut rolls we'd make

CF Nothin' fancy kilbosi we'd have and they'd make special bread that was for

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Easter only, Easter eggs

IM You made Passover bread for Easter

CF Oh yeh

IM The unleavened

CF Oh yeh

MF Nut roll, poppy seed roll

CF That's was for Easter everybody knows that

MF Well that's what he wants to know

IM Well you think everyone knows it but when people hear this tape again it won't be me as it might be someone that doesn't know anything so that's why I'm going to sound kind of dumb today I'm asking lots of questions because I want them to know when they figure out what the people of Eckley use to eat I want it to be down there on tape from the people who really knew it so I'll probably sound kind of dumb I'll ask a lot of dumb questions I may know

MF Well you ask and you'll get a answer

IM That's right but the unleavened bread I know it doesn't look exactly like a host that you would get at communion but it is just a very flat hard kind of bread with a kind of crust over it or what, could you describe it for me

MF It can't be the cabbage

CF Yes, yes that's what they call it

MF He use to make it out of the dough, you'd roll it and fill it up with cabbage and then put another layer on and bake it

IM Unleavened bread even with cabbage in it

MF Yeh

IM Cabbage is one of the big staples of the diet around here isn't it

MF Oh yeh

CF Cabbage, we had a 100 lb. or 100 gal. or how much it was, barrel full of cabbage every year

IM That's what I'm going to ask you about later you'd better start thinking about