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F. N. Bucknell - Burrende-on NSW
I have read with much interest your valuable notes of "Marriage
Rites + Relationships" in the Kamilaroi tribe. [I have - crossed out] which I
assume has been elicited by my memorandum on [last issue of - crossed out]
"Science". I think that some years ago I received some interesting
particulars as to native custom from you through [the - crossed out] Dr J Frazer;
which I have embodied in my book with due acknowledgement.
I trust that you will permit me to make some remarks on your
paper and that you will kindly reply to the queries which have
suggested themselves in its perusal.

(1) In "Second Paragraph [??] 29" under no condition can relatives marry +c"
In the third paragraph you note that Kubbi-mooli may marry
Kubbullia-Dooli. Now so far as I know from other tribes a Kubbi of the same
level in a generation would address a Kubbillia of the same level as
"Sister" [that is "class-sister" - crossed out] In my work I have distinguished between
"own relatives" and "tribal relatives" - thus the children of two brothers
or two sisters are "own" brothers and sisters" - because their respective
fathers [or mothers - crossed out] in the one case + mothers in the other case
are their ["group fa- crossed out] father collectively; while the Kubis and Kubbullias I have
spoken of above would be "tribal brother + sisters". Now on this view
Kubbi-mooti in marrying Kubbillia-dooli would be marrying
his "tribal" (or class sister) - This question was answered by Dr Fison + me
[??] referred to as "Halfsister marriage" in our work Kamilaroi + Kurnai in
1880. Kindly consider this.

(2) Third paragraph - I have noted the totem names given by you and
give below a table showing the classes, subclasses, and totems. I may
explain that Ipai and Kumbo are the subdivision of [??] Kupallun
and Muri + Kubbi of another called Dilbi. These occur in North NSW
+ South Queensland. They represent the two intermarrying moieties of the
tribes as I do not know whether they still exist in the Kamilaroi tribe
you write of. I have called them A and B

[table]
classes subslasses totem
Moiety A Ipai Dinewan-Emu
Bilba - Bandicoot
Noori - Black snake +
Kumbo Dinewan - Emu
Noori - Black snake +
Moeity B Mury Dooli - Iguana
Noori - Black snake +
Murri-ara - Pademelon
Kubbi Dooli - iguana
Mirruarra - Pademelon
Mooti - opossum

(3) Line 22 of middle column from [?Melbourne?]. I do not quite follow this passage.
[Do you mean to say th- crossed out] Do the words "either in his fathers or mothers side" refer to
all the relationships mentioned, or only to first cousin?

[written in left side margin]
I see that you include Noori in both moieties. [Is - crossed out] Are these for instance Murri-Noori men + women?
Are these not Kumbo-Bilbas - for the children of Ipatha- Bilba should be Kumbo + [?Bull?] Bilba.
Similarly are these not Murri + Marha Mooti?
I trust that you will not find it too troublesome to reply to my queries. I am now completing my book and
the Kamilaroi marriage rules are so important that I am desirous of working them out completely. I can only do so
by the aid of those who [sic] knowledge of the subject - and when opportunities for further enquiry [??] [??] then to assist me in doing so.
All the aid you can give will be duly acknowledged.

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10/6/02

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