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in the last day or two had become in favor of it and thought that if we were going to do anything at all today was the time and that he would like to hear Mr. Dahiels give his views on why he wanted it postponed.

Mr. Daniels said: "There is no proposition before you to act now and I think that after we have considered this matter we shall be able to choose from among the three men who are now presidents, or will be presidents of these three nortions of the university a man who will be president of the whole business. Do not have four when we can have three executives. One of these three men will probably be head of the whole system. We must have a head, but do not wish to commit ourselves to four high executives when we might wish to have three later - or perhaps two."

Mr. Hill said: "This matter should be settled today. What kind of a man and single head do you have in mind? A chancellor is not a czar, not a man of absolute power. His job is to bring these institutions into a merger, not into a consolidation at once. The chancellor is to consider the needs and ambitions, purposes, financial situation, and thousand of other pertaining to these institutions. Today is when you need a master mind and not tomorrow. If we are going to have these three institutions merged by one master mind, let's get to work and select him. Can you expect the Board of Trustees fo meet again immediately to study these questions and present a plan? We cannot get together because we would spend the whole time in discussion. Until we reach that stage, we will not make any progress. Dr. Works is an intelligent man and sees things differently. I favor the election of a chancellor as soon as possible and leave these three presidents as they are."

Mr. Whedbee moved that five and six be adopted as recommended by the committee. Seconded by Mr. Hill but not carried.

Judge Townsend said: "The Commission has studied this question very carefully and recognized the difficulty that Mr. Hill spoke about. We also realized that each of these three presidents in running his particular institution after this consolidation is going to have a man-size job of his own. You have got to have an executive head of each institution. They have got to be run. We thought that the presidential directorate, the triumvirate, could run these together, but we realize that the three presidents would be partial or they would not be fit for the job. There are going to come times when views will conflict. If you are going to get all these institutions to work in harmony you must have one head. This head ought to be a man who sees all three at one time one who sees the whole State, and who will so guide these institutions that all activities will be for the good of North Carolina. He ought to be responsible to the Board of Trustees. When the Executive Committee meets, problems are brought up of which they have never heard. They must take someone's word. They must take the President's word and exercise their judgment accordingly. With three heads there would be contention and the Executive Committee would have to make a study of the problems. There should be one head to whom the three presidents should present their problems. Of course, these three men could still come to the Board but they would have the word of an impartial man. We won't get the benefit until we have one responsible head who is responsible to this Board, who will give you the best study he is capable of and present the matter according to his best judgment and then you can study it from that angle. The committee felt that they should present this to the Board that before you get the good out of this you will have to have one responsible head and that they should go on recommending this. That in their judgment you would never get the best out of consolidation unless you select one head to whom the Board of Trustees should look. It gets the thing away from partisanship. If you take one president away and make him president of all of them, you will have friction. If you have one man who is big enough to see all these institutions and attempt to guide their activities in one direction and the Board can rely on his