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Waln Brown interviewing William Nagle -2- 8/21/72
Tape 5-2

But that was another priest.
S: Well that's true
WN So you see that's the way it goes, he'd scare the people up, the women, oh he's goin' to put me to heaven and he's puttin' them to hell.
WB Taking all their money?
WN Yeh, he wants the money, my wife died I said to the priest, I told the guy he was pretty good I said tell 'em to put me and the priest said, "Oh yeh," "How much will you charge." "15 goin' in, "alright" when I went to the priest I said what do I owe you, "15 adn 15 that's 30 to go in it was $15 and to come out it was $15," so you see the priest come around here, another priest he died he was only goddam crook that's what he was, I said to this priest, "Where is the other guy?" I said, "He pulled one over me, $15 to go in and $15 to go out," so he laughed, I said that's right, he comes in one time in to the gates at the cemetery to say mass like on or some big holiday, I'm collectin' for them dates on the well how much. What ever you give I had $30 I said, "Here goddam here's $30." Good enough, you know there was a fellow goin' with a girl at night and somebody called him up and said, "Father there's somebody in that place where you have mass always," so he come up and said "What are you doin' here?" he said, "I'm prayin' to God," but he was prayin' for this that boy, so he said, "You got nothin' if you want to pray there's church and keep out of here," see that's the time they put the gates on where you couldn't get in this fence, iron.
WB That kid sounds like he's Irish.
WN He was Slavish, so you see how they do, but the people called him up, you go and see in the cemetery, what's goin' on, so he went he didn't expect that, he came in, sneakin' in, went so far with teh automobile came walkin' slow and there was the grass so you see he said, "What are you doin' in here at this hour," "Oh I came in to pray for God," "Well I guess you did." So you see how they're doin' today, nobody honest, today priests or who it si they can pull somethin' on you.
WB They'll pull it on you.
WN You goddam right, so you see that's the way it goes over here, these 2 guys I tell you, got killed in teh mines, #2, you don't know where, the coal came down and squashed 'em but good enough you know that one guy only got married not long and the other guy was pretty old so he got killed, well went to the priest and he said, "Oh that's foolishness to have more people givin' money, that's only waste of money, no one mass today and mass tomorrow," he got the 2 masses, so you see that's the way it goes, they don't look what you, they look for their own pockets, the priests you know alright he steal money they take, he prays to God, says God will forgive you takes a piece of bread from the other guy, that's no way he's not payin' the dues, not payin' on time a committeeman in chuch and the priest you collect and you're not payin' nothin' the priest say you're a good customer and pay all the time was a kid on relief but they don't care the committeeman, they collect this here money he said, "No I ain't goin' to collect that money because I know they're good members but he don't go you know this year he didn't pay at chuch no more you're out,,is that right that the man that payin' the poor bugger he just got out a job and relief, do you know how much relief he get and maybe 4 or 5 kids that takes a lot of money to keep him goin' so you see he no good you don't know I've been livin' so long here I used to go to they got a janitor he was a fireman before they got a janitor for fire and he was organist they pay organist and janitor, that janitor before that he said, "We been at that church, expect the money," used to be janitor and pay organ and give me a raise the priest use standin' back