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Tape 16-1, page 11

JS: From under there.

AV: My goodness!

JS: It was comin' and comin', just like, like fish, comin' down! Yes, it's, it's,
mining is all right one way, but you have to know your ways, en-how to do it.
And I [??????].
I drilled gangways, I drilled buggy roads--it's a little car, you know, you,
three goes into a car. You can't go in with a big car, you know, it's too
much pitch, so they go sideways, they go up so far and go sideways, and you have
this here little car that you push up. And then you dump it into the chute,
and it goes down where you load your cars through. S [???? blank space].
I drove slopes down already, I drove rock tunnels.

AV: Oh, yeah? How do you cut a rock tunnel?

JS: That's, that's hard.

AV: I'll bet.

JS: Real rock. Miners, they have no jack-hammer [????? blank space] Just
hammer it out. Drive the jumper in.

AV: What's that, jumper?

JS: That's a, they have different sizes. You start with one about that long, you
know, to get the hole started. You hit on it and turn it; every time you hit
you turn it. but you must hit it hard, because it's rock. And that isn't
sharp like a knife or somethin', because it has to be stronger you know. So
it has an edge on, you have to keep on poundin' on that til you get a then when you get in a
piece-way, then you take a longer one. And you can have them as long as six
feet. And the, you don't know how to jumper [??], you're gonna stick your
jumper in, you won't get it out and you won't do nothin', so your work is for
nothin'. That's pretty tough.

AV: I'll bet.

JS: That's a hard job, when it is by hand. And that's what they used to do, one
time, I have...