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Tape 16-1, page 39

AV: Tell me where you heard where there's pines......

JS: Where there's pines, that's where the coal grew.

AV: Oh, what kind of pines?

JS: Just trees.

AV: Like, those things in your garden, these....

JS: Hemlock, bull pine. See, there's two different pines there. That's a
hemlock there, and this here one that's a bull pine, what they call.

AV: That tall one?

JS: The one on this side. That's a bull pine. Then down below they start
already, this spruce, single. They're a different pine. But they claim
where the pines grow that's where there's coal underground, in there.
That's how they bought this up, mostly Buck Mountain, there were a lot
of pine down in there, and that's where they looked and they seen that
that was coal in there. So from there one, they used to folley up, where
there's a lot of pine, there's coal.

AV: That's interesting to know. Who used to say that, where did you hear that?

JS: Oh, I heard one time when they bought this land. I don't know, they didn't
pay big money for it neither. And they knew already buy the pines that
there's coal there. And nobody else knew, you know. And that's how they
bought this up. They didn't pay too much money.

AV: Some of the original guys that were here?

JS: Yes.

AV: Why do you think that pines grow where the coal is?

JS: I don't know. Well, I think that's in nature, you know, they folley up.
Different things grow different places. Why, I planted all these trees
here, just babies, and then I like to see them grow up, from small up.