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they handle their money + investments nor what the long term plans are. I think the $500 was good to do as it seems like $300 a year is reasonable: 700+100/3. But who knows. Are tithes outdated? I can't think about this... What can I base the problems of the Church on. Do I know what spiritual problems people have? NO! You know very little about what people do. You must learn before you interfere by giving people money.

Stocks: this week Oct 30 - Nov 3 has been a hectic one in the market. The last 3 weeks have held a massive nosedive. I have repositioned myself in the market. I bought 3000 shares of Timberline last May: 2000 at 2 1/4 and 1000 and 2 3/8. Also 2000 Nupec at 0.70. I bought them because in May I thought they would have a chance to discover valuable mineral claims that Spring and summer. I had thought Commodore was overpriced at 20 so I didn't buy it. Nevertheless it went up to t35.

Then came a mini crash. Commodore fell to 14 or so. OTC stocks were not affected much though.